Protesting Victoria Secret!
horrible treatment when shopping
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My friend and i were out shopping on friday, i needed more bras, and she needed a corset. We stopped in at victoria secret to double check my size, and see what they had cause they were having a sale. We wait for the sales associate to finish up with the customer they were helping, then my friend asks very politely if we can get me measured, and the lady just gives us this LOOK like "youve got to be kidding me, what on earth is wrong with you, i dont even want to TOUCH you"
but since she HAS to measure me (coughdiscriminationcough), she did, though she got my size way wrong, i was wearing a looser shirt, and she didnt even bother to make sure the tape was actually on ME and not my shirt, she just left it nice and loose, she told me i was a fricken 38B!!! (which im not, im a 34B thank you very much) and then she pushed us off to some "Reject bin".
Now i know that im still waaay early in my trans so i get the whole "weirded out" to some extent, but STILL, youd think that theyd, idk, want to make MONEY during a sale?
My friend and i ended up going to Freddricks (spelling?) and target and got me a couple new bras, because they were more then willing to take my money. couldnt find a corset like she needed though, so we're heading out to hollywood later this week. Anywho i dont really think ill be shopping at victoria secret for a while now, and myself and many of my friends are all actively not buying things there, regardless of price/quality. Youre free to shop where you please of course, and im sure as a whole theyre a great company, but im just horribly offended that a large company like them would have a LITTLE more respect for the people who shop there.
"I'm...all alone. But I'm doing my best... I'll be ok without you, Sis. I'll be able to take care of myself." ~Squall
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Kissy_Siss
i will join you in the protest! i got dirty looks when i tried to shop there too );
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DanniLace
Try online shopping you will have better results
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baby_anna


 Try online shopping you will have better results  




Online is all well and good, but I belive that if you have the courage and determination to do it in person, in an actual shop, then you should go for it. If all goes according to plan (and hopefully most cases do) you WILL end up with a product that is what it seems to be. It takes out all the negative aspects of ordering online such as getting the right size and knowing if it suits you or not. Not to mention no waiting for delivery, which can be anywhere from 1-8 weeks ordering online (depending on where you order from).

On top of all this, I HATE descrimination and prejudices. I believe that they are the biggest proplem human kind needs to overcome.

So, finaly, I agree with Ashie and Kissy_sis, boycott (or should that be GIRLcott) Victoria secret!! I know I will.

Mabey just that one Ahsie was talking about though? 
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littlemissalexis
I think that is probably sometimes the main company doesn't know about. You might should complain to them and see what their stance on it is because just because someone works in a tg friendly place doesn't make them tg friendly. Sometimes a store might get away with it if no one ever says anything about it.

If they didn't know it and try to correct it you might be helps others who go to that store. If they say or act like they don't care then protesting or boycotting would be good.
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SissyJessy
This is disgusting that you had to go threw that, I can understand if you don't approve of a sissy/tran life-style, but there is no reason to make a look or even say or act in a disapproving way when your working in a store like that. I am very sorry you had to experience that, its something that we should not have to go to. I doubt the entire company is like this, however I don't shop victoria secret anyway, so I can't really do much of a girlcott xD




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Dru
I used to work at Victorias Secret : ( I love the store and for the most part the majority of the coworkers I had but I left there after I just couldn't stand it anymore how some people would be so rude to customers and coworkers. I still love the store and the Pink collection but I wouldn't recommend the specific store I worked at to anyone. Just in my short time there what I noticed things and how my friends and family were treated when they stopped by to say "hi" to me at work while shopping was disgraceful. I could say a lot but don't want to go off and I am not but I am not gonna let certain people effect where I choose to shop. And I mean I for a long time just gave my coworkers the benefit of the doubt and still don't believe they are bad people they just don't know any better since most of them were spoiled princesses and worked there for the discount or few extra dollars to spend. I might not go to that certain store anymore but I still like the products a lot and am fine with shopping online mostly.

I understand you could be upset but one thing I like to tell people especially now with my current job I work for a huge national business is to not let one interaction with a company change your opinion of them too much because of one individual or a few people that misrepresent the company because I know VS doesnt stand for that and one of the hardest working and kindest people I have met in my life worked at Victoria's secret. And very early on when I was hired she went over with me and another coworker about Trans and crossdressing customers and how to treat them with respect and to accommodate them to make it less awkward for them. I was kinda surprised at first but very impressed and felt good at the time since I wasn't out to anyone at work and this seemed like good news. Later on I found out this was just important to her and not a shared value throughout the store.Sadly I didn't work with her too long because she quit too for similar reasons that I did,that she didn't like some of the attitudes and behavior of people we worked with and business practices. But I mean what can you expect from people working in the mall. I don't shop too often since I have a bit of a history in customer service and retail and am shocked and appalled most of the times when I do go to the mall so its just not worth the hassle anymore.

Sorry take care Ashie =D
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RedHeadBunny
I haven't shopped at VS in ages. I'm not trans but I have a unique build (very large breasts on a very slight frame) and so I get measured and the woman goes "you're a 32 we don't really carry large cup sizes in a 32" and I was used to that by now so I was like "oh well" and I went over to look at panties. Well! the woman comes over to me again and says "you should probably just go" like as if I were instigating something! Needless to say this woman went out of her way to make me feel like a leper or something, and hurry me out of the store. I just haven't gone back. Stick with Frederick's not only do they have more options as far as size and coverage they also make a much better quality product.
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ashie


 and im sure as a whole theyre a great company, but im just horribly offended  




Just felt i needed to reiterate this. I dont hate them as a whole, and i acknowledge they have some VERY cute stuff, but im taking a break from purchasing from their company as a whole, and most definitely that particular one, this isnt the first time ive had issues with that particular store, just the first time theyve been big enough for me to actually care about it. Buying online is all well and good, but should i really be forced to buying a product online instead of just stopping into the store like anyone else would? i DO buy some things online, but thats more out of necessity due to location. Like my cosplay outfit, or certain special toys, or somesuch. If there are MULTIPLE lingerie stores in the mall near my house ALONE (not counting the other ones just floating about in the area, or some of the other malls near here), i really dont think its proper to have to buy things online to avoid THEIR poor employees. i understand why some of you buy online, and i mean no personal offense to you, its what you prefer to do or need to due to circumstance, but i should be able to stop into a store and buy something cute while im out shopping with my friends, without having to go through something like that.
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Dru
Oh yeah I understand that. And half the fun of shopping at a store like Victoria's secret is just going in there and looking at stuff. I mostly shop online for convienience. I can do it when I like and its better for me since if I go into an actual store I will have to buy something =D No self control... Yeah you shouldn't be forced to change how you shop or where you shop because of rude people I know its unfair. If you have thick skin then I would suggest just going back in there and shopping and not worrying about it. You were already measured and even if you think that measurement was incorrect on their website they give directions for bra sizing for "THEIR" bras since they do fit differently then other stores/brands. Just go in and shop and have fun only time you will need to talk to a employee there would be to get into a fitting room or to get rang up. And buying something like bras is sorta risky offline since you can't try them on. The Victorias Secret Angels Card also gives you some great coupons for 6 months after you sign up. If I remember right half off bras every other month and I think like a free panty the other months.

Don't let meanies win. if you want to shop there go right ahead. Go in with friends and maybe bully them around and see how they like it. Don't want to be too mean but if they are rude and stuck up and artificial they will probably feel insecure if you and your friends are in there shopping and enjoying your time and not letting them dictate your experience in the store. If someone approaches you and you feel uncomfortable or don't need or want their service just say no thank you then go ahead and keep shopping and don't give them the time of day. Hope this doesn't sound too mean because I don't want you to be a bad kid too just trying to think that maybe you can fight fire with fire a bit or just not let them effect you.

Take Care Ashie  
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wittle_bwittany
i live in the bible belt, so needless to say most people arent very friendly to my kind. VS, no matter how awesome of a store, is uncharted territory for me. the only VS within 30 miles of here is in the local mall and everyone i know hangs out at the mall, so i've never had the guts to go in there. its probly best that i didnt, due to where i live, it probly wouldnt be well recieved.

my only advice is to file a complaint with there suprviser and hope that things change. one thing you could do is shop there just to anoy that particular employee. maybe they'll change there opinion or even decide to work elsewhere. it would a great win for the trans community. i wouldnt recomend avoiding shopping there just because of one employee, that shows weakness. you should show them that trans people arent going to go away just because they want us too. dont let them win.
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